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department says sandy had only a minimal effect. is it true a clean number and what are conspiracy theorists saying. >>> a comment hastings made last july. what does it say about s.e.c. rules and whether they are out of date. >> mcdonald's will post same store sales on monday gets an upgrade to buy taking the forecast to a street high after surveying franchisees. we begin with november jobs number. 146,000 nonfarm jobs added last month above forecast of 80,000. october and september payrolls were revised lower. unemployment rate fell by 0.2 to 7.7. that's the lowest in four years. the dip occurring mostly because more people stopped looking for work and were not counted as unemployed. as for hurricane sandy, the labor department says the storm did not substantively impact the november results and that probably was the biggest surprise to everybody. >> this is a very strong number. i think only u.s. government now can stop this kind of job growth. a fiscal cliff go over -- >> snatching victory from the jaws. >> a superstorm. nothing can stop the generation of jobs in this economy. >> there's

say the slow down in nonfarm payrolls will reflect the effect of sandy. joining us this hour is bank of america merrill lynch global research senior research economist michelle mire and we'll talk through everything that's been happening through jobs and what to expect. but first, there is a developing story. an earthquake off the northeast coast of japan triggered a tsunami warning. the warning has been lifted, but it was a 7.3 quake. so far no reports of any injuries or damage. it was for the same area devastated by an earthquake and tsunami back in march of last year. we will continue to bring you any developments. in the meantime, steve has some of the morning's top other stories. >> let's start with the markets. asian stocks rallying to 2012 highs overnight. the nikkei edging lower after hitting a se hitting hitting a seven month closing high yesterday. european trading, shares seem to be fwllat. bundesbank announced it had cut its growth outlook for the country. in the u.s., the nasdaq snapped its losing streak yesterday with its first gain in five days. the dow was on pace for

is that sandy had no substantive effect on the data. here are the numbers. unemployment down to 7.7%. the economy added 146,000 jobs, not great but good. a third of that came from the retail sector. 53,000 jobs added. professional and business services up 43,000. leisure and hospitality up. construction, though, lost 20,000 jobs. we should note that jobs numbers were revise d downward, though, for september and october. in september it was revised from 148,000 gain to 238,000. went from 138,000 to 132,000. this month, the 7.7 is a full point lower than where we were at this time last year. so what are we supposed to make of these numbers and does the november report provide us a real sense of where this recovery is right now? let's bring in the man we like to bring in every month, the chief economist for moody's analytics. mark, i have to start with this sandy impact. the labor department specifically put out a statement saying our survey response rates and the affects ee eed states. it did not affect estimates for november. do you believe that? >> i'm skeptical. i mean, new yorke

noise in this report. early thanksgiving, hurricane sandy. is this rally at the end of the day having anything to do with any anticipation of the jobs report? what are you looking for? >> no, i don't think so. we're looking for almost exactly half. we had 171,000. the consensus is 85 to 90,000. we're looking at half. i understand that, you know, superstorm san difs a horrible event, and i am sure it's going to take some jobs out, but it's going to also be a bit of an excusetrending well. i'll give you an example. wells fargo gallup does a small survey. on hiring, small businesses dropped to the lowest level of opt miimism in four years. it doesn't matter what ben bernanke does. i think his programs have long since not really helped the employment side, but the fiscal cliff is doing obvious damage. that's going to make what everybody knows is coming. we ran out of two years to sell. they're going to go from a twist to outright purchases. it's fully built into the market, but it isn't going to help. the fiscal cliff is going to do more damage to the psyche of job creation than anything

as adp misses estimates. the blame goes to superstorm sandy. goldman says the party is officially over for gold. >> starbucks at an investors conference will add 1,500 stores in the u.s. over the next five years. wait until you hear what they said about china. >> a big day in media. pandora ceo joins us live later this morning as the stock fell nearly 20% on weak guidance and netflix signs a big exclusive with disney. how much are they having to pay up for that? >>> let's deal with this big deal. as i've been telling you we'll see a lot of big deals -- i was wrong. here we are. freeport mcmoran buying not one but two companies. the combined price if you add it all together gets close to $20 billion. that does include debt. let's go through some of the details. it's somewhat complex. let's start with bigger of the two deals. freeport's purchase of plains. approximately $6.9 billion in total now. it's a cash and stock deal. .6531 shares and 39 bucks a share in cash. that adds up to $50 a share. that's a fairly significant premium when we look at where pxp, that being the ticker symbol in

. >> you have a combination of 11 year old age of autos, destruction of -- by the way, sandy was an auto destroyer. loss of life. horrible. terrible. it also took out many more cars than people realize. you have to pump overtime to be meet the demand. >> we're still adding up sandy and figuring that out. we're far from figuring that out. hundreds of thousands of automobiles. where are we? 15 plus at the end? >> it's possible. 15. it puts people to work in the country. they don't just add in mexico. mexico is booming. fabulous moment for mexico. they will add in this country too. >> there's talk that their share of the market in the northeast, the big three, is not as high as it is in the rest of the country. we live in part of the country where incomes are higher. you may see better numbers out of bmws and mercedes. >> i don't know the percentage that's brought into the new jersey, new york area, the ones that you always see when you go over a bridge and you look down and this is new york -- i don't mean to be too centric. the foreign cars have to replenish quickly. american cars have to

sandy. right after chris christie vetoed a key part of president obama's health care reform. that's next with governor howard dean. and later, the man who made the war on women legit. >>> the week before the storm, you were out there, president obama couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag with a fist full of 20s and a tank. then right after the storm was i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. >>> the week before the storm, you were out there, president obama couldn't lead his way out of a paper bag with a fist full of 20s and a tank. then right after the storm was over, you were like this man is a leader. doesn't that -- doesn't that tell you something about the game? what does t

points. at the low of the day we were down 56. >> we're going to start hearing the impact of sandy as we approach the holiday shopping season. sandy stimulated sales of new cars last month. see which automaker drove away with bigger gains, ford or gm. >> then pain at the pump. our next guest is warning a new ethanol fuel blend that not only costs more but adds to the cost of food could damage your car and void your warranty. really? you're going to want to hear this coming up. >>> and banks be aware. a third of americans would rather get a mortgage from walmart than a bank, even though walmart doesn't offer them, at least not yet. we'll hear from somebody saying offering home loans would be a boone for walmart stocks. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- you can stay in and share something... ♪ ♪ ...or you can get out there with your friends and actually share something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. offering some of our best values of the year. when you take a closer loo

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for first-time unemployment claims last week. that's a high number. forget about sandy, 370,000 is a high number. here we are raising taxes on everybody who worked by $120 billion. maybe we'll also raise taxes on richer people, wealthier people. raise the tax on dividends and interest and capital gains. that amount to a big tax increase in a weak economy. should we be doing that? >> what we are told is all across the board this is what has to happen. we need revenues brought into the federal government. a lot of people unhappy with that model. but that what's they are arguing. >> reporter: that's what they are arguing. but the president wants higher tax rates on the rich web's standing firm on that. the republicans are not going to say caved but they agreed to $800 billion in extra tax revenues over 10 years. so yes a tax increase is coming in one form or another. and you add that to the payroll tax increase and you have got a big tax increase coming count pike in a weak economy. martha: it will hurt across the board from the top to the bottom. everybody's financial picture will look diff

shopping season is going so far. we know that those november retail sales reflected sandy and some other one-time issues. what do you think really is happening behind the scenes in terms of what's happening for holiday shopping? >> well, i think it's the same story every year. the promotions start early, black friday's always a big weekend, this year was no different, and it depends on who you listen to nrf was very optimistic about the estimates, gallup was not so much, and then the sandy-related numbers. there are clear winners and losers here. it's the sandy blameathon, clearly, but some of the winners and losers walmart and limited. >> walmart and limited. who do you think is in trouble. we saw gap shares down by 7%. is that a reflection of the dividend they won't be paying or the special dividend. is there something more with what's going on with stores there? >> well, i think everybody's nervous now, certainly. again, after you saw the tough numbers in november, the question is, do retailers get nervous? do they press the pedal in terms of more and more promotions? gap yesterday wa

'm going to tell you, it caught me by surprise. most people thought that hurricane sandy would have some sort of effect on these numbers and the labor department is telling us that sandy did not have an impact on these numbers. they looked across the country and in this region and the surveys were within normal range. they don't think it had an affect here. 12 million people unemployed. 40% of those have been unemployed for six months or longer. that's still a problem, don. to the right of your screen, 14.4% underemployment. some people call that the real unemployment rate. means a lot of people are still hurting or have been left out of the market. clearly you do have an improving situation here, improving but still leaving some people behind. this is what the trend looks like. this is the big drought of jobs, financial crisis here, slow attempt to get out of the hole. we want to see 150,000 jobs created or so every month to keep up with the growth in the population of the united states, working age population. you can see the last three months a little bit of an advance each of those m

in october. i've talked to some experts who say sandy, the sandy effect on the jobs is somewhere between 80 and 100,000 jobs in the month of november. so whatever it is you can blame sandy for what 80 to a hundred. add that to whatever the number is and it maybe should be what the number should have been. we are taking a deep dive into understanding the american electorate. it could spell a lot of trouble for republicans going forward. our fiscal cliff-mas gift today alan smith gets down gangnam style. what the senator is saying about the video that's gone viral watching the daily rundown only on msnbc. u see this? oh, let me guess -- more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] ever

. despite predictions of stalled job creation in november in superstorm sandy and looming fiscal cliff, the nation added 146,000 jobs last month, and unemployment ticked down to 7.7%. while november's figures are higher than expected, september and october were revised down 16 and 33,000 jobs respectively. chief economists for moody's analytics mark zandi cautions november may see a downward revision but the numbers are a good sign. >> bottom line, feels like the job market is holding firm in the face of sandy and fiscal cliff concerns, so that's good news. >> surprising exactly no one, the white house and republicans had different spin on the numbers. >> if congress does address the problems that it needs to address, concerning the fiscal cliff, if we have reasonable resolution type of programs that the president has been proposing to support the economy in the short run, get us on a sustainable fiscal path in the long run, protect the middle class we're going to see progress in this economy. >> the risk the president wants us to take increasing tax rates will hit many small businesse

there, and economists have thought that hurricane sandy would have an adverse affect, and it hurt some, but there's so much going on that the economy -- >> is it possible we haven't seen the full impact of hurricane sandy, that we still might see some of those jobs lost, and it just hasn't been the numbers have not caught up to it yet to the reality? >> absolutely right. we do have to wait another month to get the full picture of it, but it was interesting that we saw initial claims for unemployment compensation initially spiked up right after sandy, and then they began to go down, and so i suspect next month there will be some effect. >> how strong is this job growth? does this really get us out of the recession conditions for so long? >> interesting question. it has the potential to do that, because think of this. we've had sandy, and we have all of this debate going on over the fiscal cliff, that's driving us all crazy, right? >> yes, it is. >> and what it's also doing is that it has gotten the corporate seblgtor in a position where they're not vin investing. they're waiting to see

of the week. >> two area families joined forces to help victims of superstorm sandy celebrate the holidays. they collected donations and stuffed a truck full of toys. we first introduced you to 5-year-old sadey and 6-year-old tyler on 11 news earlier this week. when they learned each family was gathering toys to give to children who lost everything in the storm, they teamed up with the goal to fill this truck outside of target in white matt schaub. >> schaub -- marsh. >> we never thought we'd be able to fill a trailer so we are stuffing this truck today and taking it out next weekend to the kids who lost everything. >> sadey's mom says they're grateful for all of the and the families plan to drive the truck next weekend to point pleasant, new jersey. >> and hundreds of families with loved ones deployed overseas by the military have christmas trees in their homes this morning thanks to local business. the staff of the hubbard funeral home worked with the national guard to identify families that might need extra help in the holiday season. yesterday, they gave away close to 300 trees. >> it'

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♪ e. what? i was confused. >> by what? >> stephanie: we have representative sandy -- >> levin. >> stephanie: i was not going to mispronounce that. >> okay. >> stephanie: it is a bad nightmare repeating, isn't it jacki? >> the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> stephanie: yes. >> i love that they don't include the tax cuts for the middle class or the expiration for the bush tax cuts for the top 2%. and they are like here is our offer. if you are going to make a deal at least deal something somebody actually wants. >> yeah. >> stephanie: serious plan. they are like they won the election. >> it is totally farfetched and they are like i don't understand why he doesn't want it. >> stephanie: all right. here she is, jacki schechner in the current news. >> good morning. we already know that ashley judd can show a much wider range of emotion that some. she has been taking steps to assess her options when it comes to running for office. she is doing opposition research on herself to see where she might be most vulnerable. mcconnell will be running for his sixth term another o

building to save lives, invites superstorm sandy victims into his home and rushes to aid a pedestrian hit by a car. heroism so out of the norm, it's been lampooned by booker himself and new jersey governor chris christie. >> gov, sit tight. i got this. >> booker. >> governor, stand back! i got this. i got this. >> booker! >> now booker says he will honor a challenge he made to one of his million plus twitter followers to live on food stamps for a week to see how the other half lives. although it's fair to ask, as mayor of newark, doesn't he already know? the s.n.a.p. challenge, as booker calls it, means eating on just $4.32 a day. he he says he's doing to, quote, raise awareness and understanding of food insecurity, reduce the stigma of s.n.a.p. participation, and amplify compassion for individuals and communities in need of assistance. he was told by a constituent that nutrition is not a responsibility of the government. he seems to be itching to prove her wrong. he could run against the govern governor. i'm not saying he's insincere. i'm just wondering what living for just a week in som

. and you just have been really busy during sandy. you responded to sandy and you rally have been helping the folks on long island out it near and dear to your heart. they all are, but this is really near and dear to your heart. >> i did grow up in long island. and it was amazing to see the storm surge and the wind that struck long island. we were literally just opening up roads for a week and a half, which is a long time, just to create access to communities. so the storm there was very powerful. we were able to clear roads and help ambulances get to people's homes and get people in need to the hospitals. we were able to power up critical buildings and do a lot more obviously. and it is just amazing to see such a powerful storm hit such a highly populated area. we don't usually see something like that happen. >> no, i've seen -- i saw the same thing when i was right in the middle of katrina. i understand exactly what you're talking about. it is something to see and behold but also the human spirit during those things is something to see as well. because people really start helping people

the auto rebuild that's needed in the wake of hurricane sandy. can't get this stuff to america fast enough. united states fast enough. thanks to the strength of the economy, the increasing volumes with declining costs. the gross margins are expanding. how much do we love that in a rail? however, the auto industry only affects about 18% of kansas city southern's revenues. they do have some coal exposure, something that's crushed a great many american railroads, we know that because we have backed away from a lot of rails because of the coal. but they have something the other railroads don't have, consistently high growth, not that low single digit stuff and not susceptible to the cyclical nature of coal or the ongoing war between natural gas and coal in the fight to be fuel for american utilities. and that's why i'm naming it my new favorite railroad. even over and above union pacific, which has always been my favorite. don't get mad at me, union pacific. i used a great union pacific calendar, but it's december. that one's off the wall. anyway -- kansas city southern also saw some exposure

house through the west executive entrance but he apparently is there to talk about sandy aid. also making news, a massive recovery effort in the philippines after a cat traffic typhoon. at least 350 are diead, 400 mor missing. the u.s. department of state has sent its condolences. >> back at home, unemployment applications are way down. the labor department said the number of people applying for benefits dropped 25,000 last week to 370,000. unemployment applications spiked last month after hurricane sandy to almost a half million in the week of november 10th. >> accompanied by prince william, kate middleton left a london hospital for treatment of acute morning sickness. she will continue her treatment at buckingham palace. >> and there was this prank call to the hospital. >> that doesn't even sound -- i mean, that's ridiculous. the nurse ended up giving up personal information and the d.j.s say they never thought their fake accents would fool anyone. >> jovan belcher's daughter will get about $1 million from the nfl. the linebacker killed her mother and then killed himself. she wil

dodged a bullet with hurricane sandy in a way we really weren't expecting. we were really expecting to see that hit much harder because it hit the week that they were taking the survey. the real concern with the economy now that you're hearing fl folks like mark zandy is that it's not consumers that are not spending, it's employers who are spending. business investment has been down year over year in the last two quarters as people do not, you know, invest in equipment or buy software because they have no idea what's happening to their tax rates in january. that's where people get nervous about what's going on. >> the uncertainty? >> yeah. >> blake, if there is a deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, could these jobs numbers get considerable better? >> i think so, but it's funny. the republicans are in a bit of a box here. their motivation is to say it's not so good. a lot of jobless people out there. we have a real problem. meanwhi meanwhile, we have fiscal cliff negotiations where the president wants stimulus mechanisms including an extension of unemployment insurance. they're

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of the november jobs report and what impacts superstorm sandy and those fiscal fears may have had on hiring. meanwhile, the national retail federation is asking congress to step in and stop striking clerical workers who shut down 10 of 14 terminals at two california ports. the group estimates the now week-long strike is costing $1 billion a day. >>> edward glen hayden, managing director and head of global interest rates at morgan stanley, pictured here during his days at goldman sachs is being investigated by commodities and futures regulators. according to "the new york times," the question is whether hayden's trading manipulated the price of treasury futures while he was back at goldman in 2008. >>> news corp. announced the ceo of its uk newspaper operations who took the reins in july of last year is stepping down. >>> swiss banking giant ubs is reportedly close to reaching a $450 million settlement with u.s. and british authorities over an interest rate-rigging scandal that rocked the banking world this year. and on the deal front, delta airlines is said to be in talks for a 49% stake in

his own people and governor chris christie asking the feds to pay 100% for the damage left by sandy. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. we begin this morning in washington where the halls of congress are a little quieter now that house members have gone home for the weekend. the break comes with 26 days to go until the fiscal cliff deadline and after president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke again by phone but failed to reach a deal. boehner says revenues can be on the table just not in the form of tax hikes on the rich. treasury secretary timothy geithner says that just won't work. >> there's no point to an agreement that involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthy. it's only 2%. >> geithner went on to say that he's fully prepared. the obama administration is fully prepared to go off that fiscal cliff if republicans don't agree to tax hikes on the wealthiest americans. let's bring in congressional correspondent kate bolduan. the white house won't budge on taxes. the republican led house takes a br

money. >> plenty of economic data. we is v a welcome respite from all the fiscal cliff. but sandy's fingerprints will be over this data. you're going to see fewer jobs created than expected because sandy kept companies from hiring, people from going out and finding jobs because that was a big disruption in the northeast. we'll start to see the effects of sandy, expected to be temporary but you will see that. >> do you think it will be big some. >> i think that -- i think that -- i think that sandy is going to mean tens of thousands of jobs at least. >> all right. >> more on that tomorrow. >> thank you. >> extreme make-over gop edition. >> paul ryan, marco rubio set a course for rebranding the republican party. >> can you guess the word of the year for 2012? your odds of getting it right are better than in previous years. that's because there are two words almost always looked up together. >> powerball. >> that's your hint. this holiday, share everything. share "not even close." share "you owe me..." share "just right." the share everything plan. sharable data across 10 devices wit

important jobs report of the century. this is a squirrelly one in part because we have the sandy effect in there and i think joe's right, there is going to be to an extent a sandy effect in there. i just want to show you first the claims chart. this is the chart we've been putting up every week since hurricane sandy came through and the pattern of sandy jobless claims relative to katrina. if we don't have that chart -- there it is, great. it goes up and now we're in the down. it may pop back. but the trouble is that the big surge there is probably in the week of -- or is going to affect the week of the employment survey. >> the last week. >> and now, guys, if you have the next one back there, i don't know if you have it, you can see there what we show there is we're looking for only 80,000 jobs on friday. 95 in the private sector. that's a big jobs -- it might be hurricane related, but it could also be cliff related. there's these two things just backing up what joe said, folks, we've got enough to worry about without the stuff that we could probably fix and move on, there's enough goin

here, sandy was terrible. that will subtract from growth. we also have the little twinkie strike which is something that everybody's worried about, so that will subtract. so when you net all those things out, you'll probably get a number closer to 90,000. but when you net those things out, you know in future months you'll get more growth. 2 pch 2.7, a lot was inventory based. so economic growth probably gets weaker. but as the rebuilding takes prar place, the strike resolved, no jobs no doubt. >> so in the meantime we go back above 8%? >> i think there's a chance that you can touch 8%, but i think you'll stay somewhere near the 8% range. >> if you had to make a prediction like i did, i had to make a prediction for where unemployment would be a year from now. i said somewhere in the 7s. >> i think by the end of next year you'll get a near somewhere in the neighborhood of 7.4, 7.5. still in the 7s. because again, we are going to glow next year something close to 2% and probably a little bit below that. that's not consistent with a huge deceleration of the unemployment rate. >> unless the

coming back. amazon is just a winner here particularly in sandy. i regard google as making a comeback. i think that when you look at what -- apple fears google. google is going to do better going forward. look at facebook by the way. they figured out things. i'm not going to be -- i'm looking at stocks that once we go over the cliff bounce back and if we don't go over the cliff are where a lot of money is going. >> where does ulta, are these tier 2 names? >> ulta is -- david and i joke about this. it's the growth stock -- key to this market. gilliad has been great. same with ulta. you may laugh at ulta. i won't finish my sentence. >> i may. >> this double the store thing is what whole foods says. any time you can double stores, growth guys just love it. >> we're told there's no concern if we go over the fiscal cliff that that will result in some sort of a chill in the housing recovery offer the housing market. this harvard study that bob toll cited, 1.8 to 2.8 million households fewer since 2007 were formed and that's playing catchup. we should have the formation of those households unro

, congressman, there are reports the president may ask congress for $50 billion for hurricane sandy, you know, to cover costs of relief and rebuilding. do you expect that to even be held hostage as well by region sn -- republicans? >> yes, do i. >> so no agreement on fiscal cliff, no agreement on debt ceiling, no agreement on this either? >> that's because they are obstructionists. they've turned the win into a partisan political instrument. they've turned the weather into a partisan political instrument. we have a solution to thisç 37e have introduced a discharge petition. we think that we shouldn't be holding the middle class hostage. everyone agrees the first $250,000 in income should receive a tax increase. i believe it should be higher in some areas like long island. but i'm not telling to tell somebody making $130,000 won't get a tax cut until somebody at $300,000 gets theirs. let's just vote today, tomorrow o a bill to give people a tax cut up to the $250,000, we offered a discharge petition. we need 40 republicans to sign that petition, get this out to a vote, put brakes on going ov

with the jobs report on friday. so i expect to see hurricane sandy was at play in there. >> figuring into that report. looking forward to that. >>> first it was republicans throwing the president's fiscal cliff plan right back at him. now it's the president's turn. he rejected an offer that included no raise in tax rates for the top 2% of americans, seemed to indicate a little wiggle room on his insistence the taxes go up for the wealthy from 35% to 39.6%. here's what he told bloomberg tv. >> do they have to go up to 39.6% now? >> let me sort of describe the process here for you, juliana. let's let those go up and then let's set up a process with a time certain at the end of 2013 or the fall of 2013 where we work on tax reform, look at what loopholes and deductions both democrats and republicans are willing to close and it's possible that we may be able to lower rates by broadening the base at that point. >> want to get to stephanie cutter former deputy campaign manager for obama 2012. stephanie, nice to have you with us this morning. appreciate your time as always. you're the -- >>

this one will give us a good sense of how hurricane sandy affected employment. that will do it for me. "cnn newsroom" continues with don lemon. thank you for tuning in. have a great week. and don, looking forward to seeing your show. >>> you were talking about my shoes and someone said, don't tell her that's your usher board uniform. >> which you still have to bring in. i keep asking, where is your usher board uniform, don? >> i was in new york last week and deb let me use her office. >> i even cleaned it up for you. >> thank you, deb. see you soon. always a pleasure. hi, everyone. we are going to get you up to speed on the day's headlines here on cnn. fiscal cliff talks are turning into a high-stakes game of chicken. secretary tim geithner said there's no deal unless republicans agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's the choice we'll have to make. >> republicans are furious. they don't like democrats drawing a red line in the

of the sandy effect. now as you can see showing those percentages here, big jumps. alaska was the biggest jump of all places and thousand this is where i want to bring in david wasserman of the cook political report. this is my favorite thing here, david. take us through what is unique about mitt romney and paul ryan that no other losing presidential ticket pulled off. >> chuck, this may be the only ticket in history both candidates have not only lost their home states but their home counties and home towns. chuck, that's remarkable. >> massachusetts, wisconsin, middlesex county, belmont, massachusetts. i guess that's what you end up having with two blue state guys running on the republican ticket. some conservatives say it doesn't matter if you get blue state guys. doesn't seem to pull off swing voters. we move on to a couple of other things here and this is something you have started doing. trying to break up the cultural differences between the two parties. counties where there are cracker barrel and whole foods. a few have both. northern virginia. >> just a few. >> prince william or loudou

. fema's chief is appearing before a house panel on sandy. >>> providing counseling for that couple, jovanbelcher and as they mourn for their loved ones. >> as a family, no words can express the sorrow that we feel for can kasandra and jovan. we are overwhelmed with both sadness and contusion. >>> the flu season is off to an early start. the strain this year can make people sicker than other types and are your honoring the urging the public to get flu shots. >>> record high temps were broken from the great lakes to texas yesterday. temperatures in chicago even reached 70 degrees. >>> and the barefoot man who received new boots from a new york city cop is not actually homeless. police say that the 54-year-old man has an apartment paid through disability and veterans benefits. >>> we are following this developing news coming to us from iran. officials claiming that the iranian navy forces shot down a u.s. drone over the persian gulf earlier this morning. a spokesman for the u.s. says there are no missing drones. what are you hearing about how all this all happened and the public decla

to cause the sea level to rise. so for example, in the case of sandy, which was not an especially big hurricane, the economic impact was $30 billion and that's in the developed world where we have the resources to deal with it. when you have people displaced on a continental scale, we're not talking about a few people trying to get through a fence at a border between countries. we're talking about tens of millions of people trying to move north, trying to move out of southeast asia. you're going to have trouble. so the sooner we get started on that problem, the better. >> these predictions are based on climate models -- >> i appreciate your yelling. that's good. >> mark, do you accept that the ocean levels are rising, that the planet is getting hotter, that co2 emissions have dramatically increased in the last 50 years, and ice sheets are shrinking and the planet population is doubling and accelerating at a terrifying rate, and that the combination of all these things is likely to be a major problem for the next two or three generations, and therefore, doing nothing shouldn't really b

due to the effect of hurricane sandy which could put our unemployment up to an 8% rate. >> all right. we'll be watching that. thanks very much to you both. we appreciate it. of course we'll be looking at this market and whether or not it loses the steam come the big rally today. ticktock, ticktock on the fiscal cliff. my thoughts on the story from timothy geithner. guess what, folks. i think we're going over the cliff. back in a moment. are system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for

to work address our infrastructure problems, underscore it by what happened in the northeast with sandy and the commitment between a new jersey governor and the president of the united states, you know, that we can work together to rebuild the infrastructure, streamline regulations, jobs are neither democrat or republican. it's all about helping the american people out. but they're not here to do that. >> congressman, let me ask you this. house democrats, many democrats nancy pelosi and others have been vehicle toll say we don't need to give that much if there is a deal. that democrats they won the election, president obama campaigned on many things that he's pushing. one, do you agree? number two, what role, if that is the role of house democrats what role can house democrats play in influencing that process since this is being cast as president obama and john bain somewhere nobody else. >> the role that the house democrats have played all along that is we continue to put forward an agenda that is acceptable to all sides. as i mentioned, jobs, first and foremost. back home, chris, they

report is the survey was being taken at the same time hurricane sandy hit. transportation was blocked. power was out for a big swath of the country. factories had to stop producing. the economy particularly in the northeast was a mess. there was no way to survey it well. that, the economists say is why their expectations are so low for tomorrow. the good news is the hurricane's affects are reversing and quickly. the number of people filing new claims for unemployment benefits rocketed in the week of the hurricane. last week fell just as rapidly. we will eventually know what happened to the labor market in november. but as my "washington post" colleague neil irwin writes, probably not until december 21st or so when the state by state jobs numbers come out, that we can filter out the states hit by the hurricane and see what's going on in states where the economy was relatively normal. done. whatever the number is -- time to spare. whatever the number is tomorrow, don't freak out, don't worry about it. at least not yet. to come home for the holidays. that's double miles you can actually

pullback because of sandy in the numbers. maybe that will come in next month. look at the unemployment rate on the right there. 14.4%. the real unemployment. people that are working part time, want to be working full time, people out of work. >> by the way, that unemployment number, real unemployment number, is the same one we have low unemployment, too. when we low unemployment, it is actually high when you get the real numbers. >> these are the sectors we are flipping through. 43,000 jobs created. anyone trying to get your kid in college, government pointed out computer systems analysts and related fields very strong demand. that fits in that professional business services. good pay in that field. let's talk about the breakdown of race. african-american unemployment went down a little bit. 13.2%. >> still way too high. >> notice the disparities between the worker groups are still a problem. structural problems there. but the african-american unemployment rate went down and that's the trend. we have two years and change now of -- month after month of solid jobs creation. >> march of 2010.

actually have printed over 200 absent hurricane sandy. i would argue the trends is getting better. as jim pointed out, we need some clarity on the outlook, and the cliff is very important. if we go off the cliff, even if that number had been 250, the numbers still would weaken next year. >> jim, you have to make money in the meantime. where do you put your money? where are you putting money to work right now? >> well, i'm pessimistic. i share austin's view that i think we're going to go off the cliff and push this thing to february with the debt ceiling bill. as that reality comes in, the market is going to continue to struggle. i would avoid risky assets right now. i'd play something safe. play treasuries because you're not going to lose money on them. i'd play gold. i wouldn't be betting on that we're going to have a fix in place in the next 24 days that's going to lead to a big rebounds. >> all right. hang on one second, guys. we want to bring in and get your reaction to this rather surprising story that our phil lebeau has from illinois. you're finding a company that can't find people

's an entitlement. >> if you have cancer and you don't have health insurance, that's hurricane sandy. >> can you name me one person that saved their lives by a handgun? >> millions. >> women are victims of violence all the time. they can make better decisions. >> learn to protect themselves. >> or make better decisions. >> let's get right to our panel now pop toure is a colleague of mine and a host of "the cycle." karen finney and michelle cottle. karen, if i might begin to you, let's start with the breaking news. i want to start with your reaction to news this hour the supreme court will rule on california's gay marriage ban and the defense of marriage act. should same-sex marriage advocates, karen, be nervous or pleased about this? >> i hope that history will show they should be pleased and that this will be the day that, you know, this process where in the same way that loving v. virginia opened up rights for people like my parents to get married, this will be the beginning of the decision where we recognize that same-sex couples should enjoy the same rights and benefits of marriage. i hope i

by superstorm sandy. the request comes at a time when lawmakers are arguing how every dollar is spent. >>> our fourth story "outfront," an historic announcement. the supreme court decided today it will hear two constitutional challenges to same-sex marriage laws. if the court were to follow public opinion, the decision could come down in favor of gay and lesbian couples. recent polling shows 53% of americans think same-sex marriage should be legal. 46% say illegal. and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states don't have gay marriage yet and most of those that do, it was not put in by the will of the people. i'm a marylander. our state did vote for gay marriage. most of them had to do with judges ruling. if

sandy's cleanup in all states. the request comes in the midst of a tough fiscal cliff fight and house speaker john boehner says they will review the request by the president. new york and new jersey originally asked for a combined $79 billion in aide. the states' governors say they are grateful for any help. >>> the supreme court taking up the controversial issue of gay marriage. the high court agreed to hear two important cases, prop 8 out of california and doma out of new york. a federal court recently overturned prop 8 after the measure passed by voters. the court will decide if doma violates the fifth amendment of equal protection under the law that applies to same-section couples legally married in other states. >>> today is a very happy day for same-section couples in washington state. it is the first day they can marry under the new law, legalizing gay marriage. couples began lining up for licenses early thursday morning. some courthouses opened up at midnight for the ceremonies to take place. several local judges also donated their time to marry the couples. ceremonies are exp

/2 minute's time. jobless claims coming in, down and this number should be essentially clean of sandy effects, so finally a clean read as to the claims aspect. but it doesn't look like, jim, that we are set for a lower open today. >> carl pointed out that maybe there's some room between sides. but, look, yesterday was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the groun

that to you 50 minutes from now. >>> lawmakers are listening to responses of superstorm sandy. they are going to demand more funds for the cleanup. this is the third of four hearings scheduled. >>> and in houston, a history making mission to the international space station. scott kelly, the american astronaut, will speak about his next launch. if all goes as planned, it will set the longest record for a space mission for an american. we'll see what he's saying. "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. this should be interesting. speaker john boehner is meeting with house republicans who are angry at his new pitch to raise 8$800 million in fiscal cliff negotiations. we're expecting a news conference any minute now on that meeting. we'll bring it to you live. nancy pelosi spoke about it a few hours ago. here's what she had to say. >> i would hope that that would break the fall on the cliff, which is becoming more of a soil if they do that but really, we do need to put a down payment, not just in revenues which passing middle income

clean up the damage caused by superstorm sandy and then potentially to prepare for future storms. >>> at least 49 elementary school students and adults had to be rushed to an atlanta hospital today because of a carbon monoxide leak. here is the thing. firefighters discovered the highest levels they have ever recorded of the deadly gas near the school's furnace. listen to the firefighter. >> obviously with carbon monoxide, the danger is going to be an affix ant, it could stop people from breathing. these children have been in the classroom since 7:30. our readings in the classroom were not quite as high as our reading at 1700 was near the actual furnace area. >> want to bring in george howell here. you brought in what i can only presume is a carbon monoxide detector. tell me about it and were there any of these in the school? >> this say professional carbon monoxide detector. this is what we use here at the cnn center. this will run you a couple thousand dollars. couple thousand of dollars for this. it is important to check. but for your home, $17. $17 is all it takes to get one o

to help out with sandy recovery. many of those jobs last longer than what ups can offer. experts say that that's also part of the problem, but the fact that people want to hold out for more permanent better paying jobs, but, susan, one other thing here, the issue of filling positions isn't just in lower paying fields. there's currently a big skilled worker shortage, but one consulting group says it's not that there's not workers out there. it's that companies, they're being too selective about who they hire, and they don't pay competitive wages, suzanne. >> wow. complicated picture there, but yol a lot of people still out of work. some companies can't fill positions. thank you. appreciate it. >>> they're smart, right? they're playful? very intelligent. why would someone want to kill dolphins? we are searching for a killer. e just right. perfection is in the details. ♪ get to holiday fun faster with pillsbury cookie dough. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like our tender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently.

for hurricane sandy. according to a sienna research institute poll that was released yesterday afternoon 69% of the people in new york state believe a hoax. 69% of the people of new york state prove that you can politicize science turn it into a political issue and then forge political agreement and association on that basis with it. >> exactly what scientists predicted would happen and it happened. >> stephanie: all right. sexy liberal hal sparks next i'm going to be on with the governor tomorrow night. she is awesome. we'll be right back on the "stephanie miller show." ñ

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